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PostPosted: 10 Nov 2011, 02:02
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When I play TORQ (happens on 1.5 and 2.0) with the laptop power supply plugged in, I get this annoying noise coming through, it's not ground loop hum, I don't think, I've been told by someone it's the average sound card not isolating the hard drive activity noise

It's a fluctuating whir whir chirp chirp squeak squeak kinda thing, not a constant sound and only audible when the music is off/quiet from a breakdown, but audible all the same...and annoying as all get out when a track has an epic breakdown as you can hear it over the quiet music.

I tried searching, but couldn't find anything, hard driver and noise are mentioned was too much

Other people noticed this? Is there a way of getting rid of it?

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PostPosted: 10 Nov 2011, 03:12
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When you disconnect your power supply then there nothing? I had the same problem with the same sounds and resolved it with a traveller adaptor for your power supply with no ground connection. Cost me 2 € ....
Maybe try it.....

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Post subject: Re: How do you get rid of the hard drive noise?
PostPosted: 12 Nov 2011, 18:27
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Yeah, no noise when power supply not connected...thanks, have you got a link to what you mean, no sure what that is?


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Sometimes I get a beep beep ba-beep.... beep ba-beep. Beep's not even really the right word. Xponent does this a lot. My emu did it for the first time last night, so I know it's not just the Xponent. I thought maybe it was my cell phone.

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Post subject: Re: How do you get rid of the hard drive noise?
PostPosted: 13 Nov 2011, 22:07
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Not a link but I take a photo after work and post it

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PostPosted: 14 Nov 2011, 01:15
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Reticuli wrote:
Sometimes I get a beep beep ba-beep.... beep ba-beep. Beep's not even really the right word. Xponent does this a lot. My emu did it for the first time last night, so I know it's not just the Xponent. I thought maybe it was my cell phone.


Sounds like a similar thing...I'll cut a section out of a mix and post up the MP3 so people know what I'm on about

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Not a link but I take a photo after work and post it


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Post subject: Re: How do you get rid of the hard drive noise?
PostPosted: 14 Nov 2011, 01:34
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Cool...cut this piece of the end of a mix I recorded a while back...the noise after the track ends

Once you've heard it, you can actually notice it in that section while the track is still playing...plus when a track breaks right down, bang, there's that odd noise spoiling it.

As mentioned, remove power supply from laptop, noise goes away, but sometimes you've just gotta have the power plugged in

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hard drive noise sample.mp3 [603.7 KiB]
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WOW.... that sounds nasty!

Try pluggin in the soundcard to a different usb. Also keep the power supply well away from it. Dunno what else to suggest.

But if its happening when you've got your power plugged in it could be something to do with a ground loop. But it doesn't really sound like it.
Strange.


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PostPosted: 14 Nov 2011, 21:21
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Yeah man, it's ugly, eh? Sadly my 3 USD inputs are situated right beside the power input, so can't really seperate them all that much...how does one remove ground loop hum? At the stage of giving anything a crack to try and remove that awful noise...can't keep unplugging for breakdowns, then plugging back in :lol:


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You have to find a way that the ground is not connected......
Adhesive tape maybe?
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You can try pluggin your setup into a different plug in the house, use an extension cable fully unrealed from another room!

And then there's the not so safe way of...

You can, but NOTE this is unadvisable without having a breaker between your laptop/equipment & 4 way.

Take a 4 way, take the Ground off, Job done!

But this is DANGEROUS if your not careful. DO AT YOUR OWN RISK. ALWAYS USE A BREAKER.

You can plug your laptop into this 4 way along with other DJ related equipment, BUT make sure what ever you plug into the 4 way has a breaker between it & the 4way.

Alternatively you can buy a ground loop shifter. Google is your friend ;)

There are many topics on the forum about ground loop hum & how to eliminate it.

Hope that helps.

Disclaimer. You do this at your own discretion. I am NOT responsible for any fault, fire, etc.


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Removing the ground may work for you. I have that problem with my Lenovo sometimes.


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Cheers...I've tried searching, gets a jumble of results and I can't make sense of what I'm actually supposed to do to fix up the issue...plus I'm not super technically/electically savvy, sorry, so Will D, you post doesn't make a lot of sense to me :lol:

If this is such a common issue, surely there must be an FAQ kinda page which gives you some easy solutions that don't involve you dangerously re-wiring a switch board and needing multiple breaks in place to stop things possibly blowing up?!?!


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Have a look here viewtopic.php?t=2837

Its Very Simple to do. The reason you have a breaker between whatever your using and the 4-way is due to you taking the Ground off.

Its probably fine to not use a breaker, but your not protected from surges & can destroy your equipment in the event of a surge, etc.
Its always better to be safe than sorry.

I would never suggest using the 4-way that has no Ground without a surge protector or circuit breaker.

They're relatively cheap & will save you your equipment.

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I have this problem at home, but these sort it out
http://www.maplin.co.uk/ground-loop-isolator-33172


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Awesome, cheers for those links man, much appreciated!

Further to this issue tho, just playing around now, and the noise comes through my speakers regardless of TORQ even being used! No systems open, just mixing laptop plugged into mixer via RCA/headphone jack and the noise is present...so I don't think the RCA style Ground Loop Isolators would do anything as the noise is there regardless of the decks/TORQ being involved...it's a noise coming directly from the laptop

Thinking maybe the EB Tech Hum Eliminator might help as an isolator to the power supply for the laptop...but can't find one like this with an AUS/NZ style plug...not sure a US one would with with adapters, and would require 2 of them, one to plug it into the power board, and one in the top of it to be able to plug the laptop in...argh

Perhaps it's just my shitty Compaq laptop and there won't be a way to fix it...

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Edit: Interesting...just discovered it's a lot worse if you have the filters on the Allen and Heath mixer on...click them off and it's only half as loud...f**king weird man

Oh, and the noise is there when just headphone jack/RCA'ing to my iPod docking station, too


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Are you using an external sound card?

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Nope...noise happens either just straight from the Headphone jack or with the TORQ sound card via USB...perhaps a good quality external sound card would stop this noise?

But if I'm using a stand alone USB sound card, how do I then use the TORQ sound card/controller box when that also comes from the USB?

Can you get a USB Soundcard which has another USB connector on it to plug the TORQ box into that?


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Are you using an Xponent or Conectiv with Torq 2.0 ?


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