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Quick quest for anyone who has used MP3gain software. What it the best Target Volume setting to use?

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I have mine set at 98, but I suggest you do it around 96 or 97.


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Ok great! Thanks for the quick reply. I have my music in separate folders like hiphop,house,top40, etc. I figured the Target Default setting was low. Thanks again...

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Dj Quintyne wrote:
I have mine set at 98, but I suggest you do it around 96 or 97.

That sounds pretty high, especially as a lot of the advice I've seen in many other forums recommend 93-94. Do you set mp3gain to allow clipping at that setting?

I've been running mp3gain with a target setting of 94 and for the most part have been pleased with my results... but I've only been working with a digital DJ solution for about 9 months now, gigging digitally for 6 months and only on Torq for 6 weeks. (and prior to that, 17 years on vinyl)

Admittedly I haven't done a ton of testing, my chief desire of using mp3gain was to have it normalize my track collection to an equal level, and it seems to have at least done that.

One thing I have noticed is that MP3s with lower data rates do not respond nearly as well to mp3gain tweaks as those with higher rates. I work with a lot of bootleg/white remixes and oftentimes the best quality I can get is on the low 200s.

But I have been curious about the best settings to use in mp3gain for optimum sound output. While I've got a good ear for levels and a lot of years of experience tweaking mixer knobs, one of the things that attracted me the most to the digital side is leaving that behind me. :)

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I tried 96 at first and noticed some tracks were clipping. So I tried 94 and took care of the clipping. Only on a couple of folders I had to use 92. But I'm ok with that. But the program did do what it's suppose too. The tracks are pretty much equal in sound. I don't believe you will ever get tracks at the exact level. Besides when playing out in clubs you always have to adjust the EQ on your mixes. But it does help a lot to have the tracks as close as they can be in volume.

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Almost one month later and a response :lol:

I had mine set at 98, but just recently I had changed them to 93.5 :idea:


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Does this program mess with the sound quality at all?

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Actualy I haven't had any sound quality problems at all, been using this since 2003.


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The idea (and major benefit) of mp3gain is that it doesn't affect the sound data within the file at all -- it only changes the overall gain setting that the individual file is played back at. This also makes it universally compatible with any program that'll play mp3 (and AAC) files.

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Man,... I've never even herd of this program until this morning when I was browsing through the forum. It sounded like a very useful tool so I downloaded it right away. All I have to say is, what a beautiful thing this is! I'm analyzing a folder right now as I'm writing this reply. Thanks for the info fellas! :D

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I'm shortly going to be running mp3gain on all of my music collection, but after reading on the FAQ (http://mp3gain.sourceforge.net/faq.php) about the undo info being stored in APEv2 tags (that might cause issues in some incompatible apps), wanted to check that Torq doesn't have an issue with these?

If it does, then there's an option to prevent them (and therefore the undo info) being written to the mp3s, but I obviously would rather know now than have to remove the APEv2 tags later.

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Torq doesn't suffer any issues from that information being stored in the file as far as I can tell.

And FYI the aim of MP3Gain is to remove clipping that is common place on all digital downloads. You want to know why your MP3's sound tinny in Torq, and occasionally 'distorted'? For a start Torq runs REALLY hot (loud) by default - so if you're gaining your Mp3's at 98 you are more or less amplifying clipping mp3s. Remember these digital files are gained so high because most MP3 players on the market can't go very loud. We have Torq & our mixers to amplify our music - so don't need them to be so loud that they're clipping.

Remember: A sh*t 'source', amplified x 2, is twice as shitty. If your MP3's are clipping natively, you're amplifying that 'clipping'. You should de-clip your source, and use a proper mixer to amplify these signals naturally - which is what Torq & your DJ mixer do.

The IDEAL volume is the default suggested by the program, 89db or thereabouts.

If you MP3Gain your collection at 89db, turn your gains down in Torq by about -5db and then bring it to an acceptable level on your mixer you'll get the warmest sound possible out of Torq. Try it out, and see what you think..


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MashupMafia wrote:
Torq doesn't suffer any issues from that information being stored in the file as far as I can tell.
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The IDEAL volume is the default suggested by the program, 89db or thereabouts.
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turn your gains down in Torq by about -5db

Glad to see that what I had planned doing was about right - will be nice to have it running not quite so hot on the output - and more importantly with less/no 'track by track' use of the gains required :-)


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RAULY FINGERS wrote:
Does this program mess with the sound quality at all?


No, it only modifies the headers which dictate the volume. Too loud and it will clip, but this can be reversed by reducing the target volume.

And to the OP: I recommend 95dB. The default 89 is way too low, and 98 will usually get you to clip (I'm not talking about MP3Gain's "clipping detection" either). 95 has been perfect for me.


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djfrayz wrote:
RAULY FINGERS wrote:
Does this program mess with the sound quality at all?


No, it only modifies the headers which dictate the volume. Too loud and it will clip, but this can be reversed by reducing the target volume.

And to the OP: I recommend 95dB. The default 89 is way too low, and 98 will usually get you to clip (I'm not talking about MP3Gain's "clipping detection" either). 95 has been perfect for me.


If that's what works for you, all good. Personally, I found 95db still too bright for [drum and bass].


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I'll tell you what sucks. WAVs. Haha, damn their simple file structure and crazy file size.


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giving this mp3gain a go now, found torq pretty sh*t to mix dnb with so far i think the gain has alot to do with it. will post my feedback

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Beng a mobile DJ, with various music styles to adjust the gain on, the default 89dB is optimal. Even then some tracks still clip!


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i set it to 93


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I think Mp3 gain is very similar to Platinum notes, is that true???

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